that growing brown population. when we talk about school reform and public school reform and wh disproportionately students of color. >> right. at the turn of the last century it was a different wave of immigration. at the turn of this century it's a different wave of immigration. >> yeah. >> but what we don't do enough is understand that it's a false choice to say poverty is on the one side and education is on the other side. we have to stop that debate and say how do we make schools just like they were at the last century, the center of community. do things like that so that we can actually help the whole child and help whole families. >> and the engine of social mobility. >> absolutely. >> this is how they made their american story was through education. >> latino students tend to be in underperforming schools, in areas with high poverty rates where there's a shortage of bilingual teachers. sometimes i can tell when i'm talking to people, hey, this is a latino issue. this is not a latino issue, african-american